yulasinio
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Nu am nimic cu turbo, numai stiu cati bani trebuie investiti pentru un setup bun care sa fie si fiabil.
Honda nu arde uleiul, il foloseste.
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LIVIU_CTS
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pai cand le vine vremea.....pistoane forjate, supape noi, planetare....ce sa mai fie?
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daca gasesti un b18c6 la pret bun, merita sa-l iei, cu banii dupa b16 iti faci b18 
nu de alta dar majoritatea pieselor pt b16 ieftine si bune le gasesti in b18, sa gasesti ceva peste calitate R, inseamna sa ne gandim la sume mari, si aici ma refer strict la interne
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LIVIU_CTS
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29-10-2011, 00:56
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swapul e cea mai dificila varianta, in sensul ca daca se gaseste, se gaseste f departe de mine.
un rebuilt (chiulasa in prima faza, apoi, daca se cere, pitoanele) mi se pare cel mai la indemana.
acum la capitolul piese, sa merg pe elemente itr sau skunk2? (supape, arcuri, chiduri de supape, axe came, intk mani, thr. body...)
daca nu sca de pitic pun compresor peste toate astea.
masina nu e chiar daily car.
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Toyboy
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29-10-2011, 01:47
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LIVIU_CTS
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ma tot uit si-mi da cu virgula. e diferenta de inaltime a corpului pistonului? diametrul trebuie sa fie diferit, bielele mi se par la fel....
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Toyboy
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diametrul e acelasi, pistoanele de R sunt de compresie.
ai mai priceputi in materiale zic ca, b16 este un motor mai ¨patrat¨in comparatie cu b18 81x77,4 vs 81x87.2 din aceasta cauza daca luam viteza liniara a bielelor la 9000 rpm, avem 72.57 m/s la B16 si 81.99 m/s la B18... din aceasta cauza Honda a luat masuri de precautie, cat priveste materialele puse pe R..... la un calcul rapid, ca sa ajungi cu un b16 la 81.99 m/s va trebui sa-l duci putin peste 10.000 rpm
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pai din datele alezaj/cursa date de tine mi se pare b18 e subpatrat iar 16 e suprapatrat.
acum, vrei sa spui ca pistoanele de itr se potrivesc la blocul b16 fara sa fie probleme de intelegere intre acestea si supape? la cat creste compresia ? cum sta la partea de autodetonare apoi?
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LIVIU_CTS
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fratilor, tot citesc forumuri si sunt din ec in ce mai in ceata. unii spun ca pistoanele de itr nu merg (bielele) pe arborele b16, altii ca merg, aunii ca sar pistoanele prin chiulasa, altii ca ii scade compresia cu pistoane de itr, ca cele de ctr sunt mai bune...eu nu inteleg cum unii oameni scriu chestii cu certitudine, ca si cand ar avea experienta intr-o treaba... nu mai inteleg nimic.
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Toyboy
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de obicei la b16 se pun pistoane de b16b, si aici cu mici modificari .
da, am gresit eu in lista cand am pus - biele si suruburi ITR -... asta e valabil doar in cazul b18c4.
b16 e 81x77,4 si b18 e 81x87,2
vorbeam despre diferentele de material folosite in constructia bielelor.
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LIVIU_CTS
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atunci, pentru a mari compresia trebuie pistoanede b16b (ctr)?
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(29-10-2011, 22:40)LIVIU_CTS Wrote: atunci, pentru a mari compresia trebuie pistoanede b16b (ctr)?
daca vrei sa mergi pe OEM , da daca nu poti pune si altceva , CP , Wiseco
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yulasinio
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LIVIU_CTS
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f tare calculatorul ala. cu pistoane b16b ajung la o ompresie de 11,91:1 ceea ce mi se pare cam mult. nu stiu cum va fi cu detonatiile.
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(30-10-2011, 00:20)LIVIU_CTS Wrote: f tare calculatorul ala. cu pistoane b16b ajung la o ompresie de 11,91:1 ceea ce mi se pare cam mult. nu stiu cum va fi cu detonatiile.
ai pus garnitura de 3 straturi ?
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LIVIU_CTS
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da, totul oem
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LIVIU_CTS
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inca o dilema: sa merg pe skunk2 sau itr oem?
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yulasinio
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Pai daca vrei maxim atunci mergi pe skunk2
Honda nu arde uleiul, il foloseste.
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31-10-2011, 23:43
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si uite asa o sa ramana toate pejourile in urma  )
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